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Subject: IBM\Lotus: What are you doing
Feedback Type: Question
Product Area: Activities
Technical Area: Open Mic
Platform: ALL
Release: Notes and Domino 8 - GOLD
Reproducible: Always

In 2006, the entire State of New Jersey decided to go to Exchange. Previously, many of the agencies within the state were using Notes, and my project at the time was a large Domino Document Manager project.

When the State OIT office started making noises about mandating Exchange for all agencies, regardless of budget, costs, etc. I tried to run that information up the ladder at IBM. I spoke with the regional sales reps, who said that they would pass the info along.

Unfortunately, the calls went nowhere, IBM dropped the ball, and they will be fully migrated by 2009, resulting in the loss of tens of thousands of seats, not to mention the associated data systems and integration efforts. It only makes it worse when you look at the number of applications that now get converted to .NET, and the loss of Notes opportunities.

IBM has taken the Denial approach, and while they are all saying that Notes is great, their lack of marketing expertise and sales efforts is starting to erode their government installed base.

The downstream effect of this is that the Notes Business Partner community is disappearing as well, as the Notes shops disappear, and a snowball effect starts to take place.

The net result is that I have witnessed at least 50,000 seats disappear in the last two years, and I am not seeing any increased IBM marketing efforts.

IBM\Lotus what the hell are you doing....


Feedback number WEBB7ALMJ6 created by ~Howard Asatumikonyjip on 01/06/2008

Status: Open
Comments:

IBM\Lotus: What are you doing (~Howard Asatumi... 6.Jan.08)
. . What IBM/Lotus are doing (~Phil Lopveluma... 7.Jan.08)
. . . . True (~Howard Asatumi... 7.Jan.08)
. . . . . . re: Advertising (~Mario Cislugon... 7.Jan.08)
. . . . . . I have seen commercials on TV and a... (~Phil Lopveluma... 7.Jan.08)
. . Here is a list of recent things... (~Lisa Lopresach... 7.Jan.08)
. . From the Horse's Mouth (~Isaac Xantoopu... 7.Jan.08)
. . . . Did you ever stop to think (~Phil Lopveluma... 7.Jan.08)
. . . . . . Ummm .. Yeah, I Did (~Isaac Xantoopu... 8.Jan.08)
. . An Apology (~Isaac Xantoopu... 9.Jan.08)
. . The comparison to "Exchange" is wha... (~Hank Lophipili... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . The Comparisons to Exchange only ar... (~Helga Dwoluthe... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . Not to sound defensive, but the "mo... (~Lisa Lopresach... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . That's a start, I hadn't seen those... (~Hank Lophipili... 10.Jan.08)
. . quote "no one ever got fired for ch... (~James Preresas... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . Hmmm.... (~Miriam Refooma... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . I'm not "alone" (~Mario Cislugon... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . I'd fire you (grin.) (~Hank Lophipili... 10.Jan.08)
. . After 9 years in Notes, I am consid... (~Jennifer Opkro... 11.Jan.08)
. . My 2 Cents 1/2 (~Kirk Pretoolit... 11.Jan.08)
. . Same here in France (~Zelda Umwezeng... 8.Jan.08)
. . . . If you've had "successful ND use", ... (~Lisa Lopresach... 8.Jan.08)
. . . . . . Arrogance! (~Isaac Xantoopu... 8.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . Excuse me? I was asking a question... (~Lisa Lopresach... 8.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . See this is what I am talking about... (~Howard Asatumi... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . How is that what you're talking abo... (~Naomi Deskrote... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . asking the right questions (~Hank Quetrepul... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Identification (~Naomi Deskrote... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . OK (~Hank Quetrepul... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . You're changing the question... (~Naomi Deskrote... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . But that is exactly the way the who... (~Yentl Quetkrot... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Political decisions" (~Naomi Deskrote... 11.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I never said it would. (~Yentl Quetkrot... 11.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's not just about ads (~Hank Quetrepul... 11.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . IBM / Lotus Sales Effort (~Chris Chukroet... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . AWESOME ... and I do Like Alan (~Isaac Xantoopu... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sorry (~Howard Asatumi... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . some further comments (~Mario Cislugon... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...some further comments (~Lorraine Lopfa... 14.Jun.08)
. . . . . . . . . . re:Excuse Me (~Isaac Xantoopu... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . Well, I guess we'll just have to di... (~Lisa Lopresach... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Finial Statement (~Howard Asatumi... 9.Jan.08)
. . . . . . Because of management decision (~Zelda Umwezeng... 10.Jan.08)
. . . . IBM Marketing vs MS (~Helga Dwoluthe... 11.Jan.08)
. . . . . . Targeting management (~Zelda Umwezeng... 11.Jan.08)
. . support notes (~Arnold Elluter... 28.Sep.11)




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